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TELL US: How Would You Feel About Having a Marijuana Dispensary in Town?

The medical marijuana ballot initiative passed on Tuesday, which means up to 35 medical marijuana dispensaries can open in 2013. Would you be OK with having one in town?

 

 

Medical marijuana is coming to Massachusetts. The question is: where?

The medical marijana ballot initiative that passed in Tuesday's election with 63 percent voter approval means that up to 35 medical marijuana dispensaries can open up in the state in 2013.

The new law goes into effect Jan. 1, but requires rules and regulations be set up by the Department of Public Health

Some towns and cities, such as Quincy, reportedly are already trying to line up regulations that would keep dispensaries out of their municipalities, which have proved troublesome in some of the nine states where medical marijuana dispensaries have been legal.

What do you think? Tell us in our comments section below. 

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GraftonMomof2

6:52 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012

Having been in Los Angeles recently and seeing these shops on every corner - and people smoking it along sidewalks and beaches, it disgusts me. Regulations are light, abusers are everywhere and it's as easy to get a prescription as it is for a take-out pizza. I want nothing to do with having this in our town.

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Jennifer Z

8:42 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012

I've experienced the same thing in California. The dispensaries all look like head shops, not pharmacies.

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Jenna Fogle

8:54 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012

This is a very naive and irresponsible outlook and here's why: Going to Los Angeles for 5 minutes doesn't allow you to make a judgement call like that. I lived there for 7 years and I know many people who have legal prescriptions, which are not easy to get by the way, and never once did I see anyone abuse it in public (b/c they would be immediately arrested) or did I feel "disgusted" at the thought of someone's life being less painful. And you say "regulations are light" which I completely disagree with, so I'd like you to go into greater detail please since you obviously have information the rest of us don't, so I eagerly await your reply.

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james foley

1:41 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

@Jenna Fogle- The regulations are light- even the MA advocates admitted that. And I don't see how marijuana is good for headaches hangnails and all the other BS medical conditions. Also when you have dr offices inside the "dipensaries" it is a conflict of interest. This is a BS law .

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Michelle Garber

10:45 am on Sunday, November 11, 2012

I was on Venice Beach in LA last year, every other store was a dispensary with a doctor standing outside soliciting people to come in and see what they could do for us. We were clearly not ill or in pain and I am sure had we went in we would have come out with whatever we wanted. I do agree that there are people who need this, but like most things in our society today, they are too many ways around the system...

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Alexander Saunders

8:43 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013

I see no problem with it at all its better to get clean medical marijuana that helps rather then it being laced more living then less living

Kate

7:44 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012

I wouldn't have any problem with it. We already have people who smoke it now anyway. Plus I worry more about what a bunch of drunks will do than a bunch of stoners.

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Ralph

2:42 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

You should... driving impaired is dangerous whether stoned or drunk

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Paul Hurteau

1:34 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

EXACTLY,,, You see drunks all over the place urinating on the streets after the bar closes, getting all loud and obnoxious.

I have never been to a party where people got a LITTLE high, had a mellow time and just kicked it.

NOW,,, how many party's involve drinking and the cops ALWAYS get called because these people were only having a "good time".

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GwenB

2:59 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

Indeed, and now we can look forward to drunk AND stoned drivers on the roads. Oh, glory days.

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Paul Hurteau

3:58 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

And don't forget people on prescribed medications, to old to drive, texting, falling asleep,,, Yes, we should all just get horses, live in a giant buble and ONLY take things that the government has been deemed "Safe and Healthy".

I mean, why stop at Marijuana,,, and you sound reasonable enough, that I vote for you as commissioner of "The Common Good".

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Gwen B.

2:59 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

Indeed, and now we can look forward to drunk AND stoned drivers on the roads. Oh, glory days.

Rodney Johnson

8:12 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012

I would not mind a dispensary in Westborough. Apply the same rules as alcohol.

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megan pierce

8:14 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012

I'm good with it. It would bring more jobs!

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CM

8:17 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012

Hopefully I would have sold my house by then.

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Paul Hurteau

1:35 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

Tell me,,, will you be moving in with the Quakers or the Mormons???

Stephen Halpert

8:59 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012

Marijuana is medicine as well as a recreational pleasure for many. I see no problem having a dispensary in any town throughout Central Mass. I find it ironic that people sit idly by as trains carrying dangerous chemicals cut through our landscape but become fearful if something as innocent as pot is made available to those seeking it. .

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Sean Snow

9:13 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012

In my small town of roughly 14,000 there are three package stores and five bars. I'm sure one marijuana dispensary would turn it all into a slum the likes of Flea Bottom!!

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Paul Hurteau

1:37 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

three package stores and five bars are VERY worried about losing customers,,, and they will.

People are tired of drinking poison that could kill you with your first experience!

Digger

9:19 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012

Doom and Groomers beware, people get much worse prescriptions at your local CVS. And folks on these meds are out and about. I don't see any problem if any medicine that helps people is sold in this manner. Having a head shop that sells pot to basically anyone in my town is a little different. If feel that these types of business operations, if allowed, should be modeled like brothels in Nevada. They have to be outside city/town limits, and not so easy to get to. If we use this model, the patients will be happy, the state will be happy for the revenue (public services like education can be boosted), and the stoners would be happy (they think), and business would enjoy the extra revenue from pot tourism. Besides disapointing the wing nuts I don't see a downside.

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Paul Hurteau

1:39 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

"modeled like brothels in Nevada"

Now that makes a LOT of sense,,,

Milford Senior Man

9:26 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012

I voted NO on medical marijuana because for every person who uses it for medicinal purposes there are a thousand who just want to get high. There will be some doctors who will prescribe it liberally. People fall for this crap.

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Kira Gagarin

2:11 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

Whats the problem with "just getting high"? I agree with a poster above, I am more worried about people being drunk than stoned. You want to get high in your house and hang out with your friends? No problem. More money spent supporting local food places. Where is the issue here?

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Ralph

2:45 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

As long as your friends don't drive home while I'm on the road Kira..

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Shannon Pataky

11:54 am on Sunday, November 11, 2012

Ralph, stay away from the drivers doing 10 mph. And don't assume because Kira supports weed over drinking she's got friends at HER house getting high. You can support something you don't do. I support rock climbing. Terrified of heights though.

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Sean Snow

12:37 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

Don't assume that just because someone has some friends over to get high they're going to drive home while impaired. People have friends over for drinks all the time, and most don't drive home while impaired, they sober up first.

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Paul Hurteau

4:03 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

so the numbers work for you,,, Like determining what acceptable losses are in war, right?

Hey, there are ZERO acceptable loses and there is not one person who should endure a life where their happiness is stopped by others who have a different point of view or life style.

I have a 6 pack of beer in my fridge,, It's there in case I have friends stop over.

SO I guess that makes me an alcoholic as well.

If so, it's a good thing my house is paid off,, that means more money for Marijuana.

Chris L.

9:35 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012

I think if each town's zoning boards and BOS selectman address it properly, it won't be an issue. Limit how close to schools and playgrounds they can be. Limit what can be displayed in the storefront, and everyone can move on with their lives.

Believe it or not, cannabis does have medicinal value for certain conditions. For everyone who just cast their vote in the Presidential Elections and the Senate race...if you based your vote on the perceived "war on women", yet still oppose medicinal marijuana, you need to take a long look at yourselves. You claimed Republicans wanted to control women's bodies, yet here our government is regulating what we ALL do in regards to a PLANT.

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Monica F.

10:30 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012

I think the people voted, so here we are. It will create jobs and revenue. It will take marijuana & $ out of the hands of criminals. Seems like a win/win to me. And folks, before you start thinking your neighborhood is going to be negatively affected by this legislation- remember, your neighbors are already smoking it. Nobody's going to go out and START smoking because of this. It's already there and we've had it decriminalized for years. This doesn't make it legal to walk down the street smoking, or to operate a vehicle while smoking- etc. We're all going to be just fine, so remain calm.

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The General

4:42 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

Marijuana is currently available to anyone with the right contacts. It is used in the schools, recreationally by many adults, and also by those who "just want to get high."

Folks who voted against its use for medicinal purposes are naive and foolish. For those it helps with medical conditions, it should be available by script. Legalization is not going to cause the "plant" to be any more of an issue in society than the ready availability of alcohol.

It is time folks stopped listening to the prostelitizing minority who wish to cause fear simply to be able to control the behavior of others. I would further say it is a shame question 2 did not also pass. Who are you or the government to tell me I cannot make informed choices about my quality (or lack of same) of life if my doctor tells me I have a limited time to live. Simply put, both issues are MY choice not yours.

Thomas

1:19 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

I Think it would be great because we have the cancer center in this town so Cancer patients could get their prescriptions right after their appointments

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The Troll of Northborough

1:49 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

I see no issue with this, but the BOS will probly make them put up a sign warning that devil weed is sold here or something stupid.

I think they should all go stand at D+D and look across Rt 20 and say " What a great idea it was to make them put the building that way"
Perhaps they visited the dispensary when they aproved that idea

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Sheryl Pearson

3:03 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

As I remember it, it was the Dunkin Donuts near the Milford town Library where they would wait in the mid-90's to get marijuana or any other drug they wanted. Maybe things have changed since then.

Paul Bishop

2:06 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

We here in Massachusetts have the ability to implement this in a reasonable manner, and the law passed is the first step in doing that- delineating the conditions ("(C) "Debilitating medical condition" shall mean:
Cancer, glaucoma, positive status for human immunodeficiency virus, acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS), hepatitis C, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), Crohn's disease, Parkinson’s disease, multiple sclerosis and other conditions as determined in writing by a qualified physician").

The fact of the matter is the conditions listed above are debilitating due to their horrible and often untreatable symptoms. We have passed a law which clearly defines number of dispensaries allowed (a reasonable number given the probable patient load) and some clear guidance on how they are to be operated.

Let's phrase the question differently: "What would you like to see as guidelines for establishing the dispensaries?"

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Chris L.

2:22 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

Paul, the few words in that paragraph are what has so many people upset. "and other conditions as determined in writing by a qualified physician."

Personally I still don't see an issue with it, as "other conditions": can also mean veterans with PTSD or people with anxiety disorders, etc.

The only thing that should give anyone pause is that there is no reliable roadside sobriety test for marijuana use other than smell of smoke. Of course, that's really what's holding a lot of places back from full legalization. But if you happen to be familiar with the effects of marijuana, you'd realize that, unlike alcohol, most people's first instinct is not to drive.

Also, take a look back through the police logs here on Patch and take out some notebook paper....every time you see an arrest for alcohol in either a violent situation or a DUI, make a check mark. Same for marijuana. Not counting any citations or arrests for mere possession, I'm willing to bet that 95% of your checkmarks are in the alcohol column.

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Francis P. Ardito,Sr

5:13 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

I agree with Paul Bishop for strict medical need only. I'm also concerned about these stoners that drive; poor reflexes and impaired judgement.

Paul Bishop

2:24 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

As a patient with severe Crohns, I very much would like to see this done properly. There is substantial space available in medical center buildings at the moment, one restriction could be made that they be operated and leased in real estate which is medically related. Advertising and signage should be restricted, it is simply not something where you are looking to attract off the street business, quite the opposite in fact. In addition, the overall operation and decor should be conducted in a professional manner (licensor require a nurse on staff?) and NOT anything even loosely looking like a "head shop".

This is about getting patients relief that they cannot otherwise find. Recreational pot smoking is already a decriminalized "parking ticket". The hoops that will be required of patients will be much harder (and undoubtedly the prices paid higher) than hitting up the local weed dealer. Sick people don't know weed dealers. They can't hang out in 7-11 parking lots to buy baggies off a sixteen year old kid at two in the morning. Sick people just need a way to safely and consistently get what can be a "miracle drug" in terms of symptom relief some cases. Let's do it right, and establish a DIGNIFIED system we can be proud of.

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Paul Bishop

2:42 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

@Chris- Agreed. What needs to be understood (by patients, physicians, and the public at large) is that marijuana is a medication of last resort. It shouldn't be considered as a first or even second choice. There are very real, significant drawbacks to marijuana, particularly when used in a medical context. It's crude medicine at best, and the side effects (the "High") are not to be underestimated.

I feel that Mass has a chance to be a model system, especially since the pressure to "back door" in recreational smokers is smaller here, due to the fact that the recreational use laws in Massashusetts being so light. I find it unlikely that recreational smokers will want to jump through the required hoops, when it is much easier and cheaper to obtain it recreationally.

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Sheryl Pearson

2:50 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

Milford has always had a problem with drugs and legallizing pot would help the police to keep a tab on those who use drugs in the first place. It may make it easier for people to use it, but it would help clarify any illegal activity that goes on now.

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Ray Fellows

2:57 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

My brother in law lives in Los Angeles where they have ths=ese everywhere. He says you can find tons of doctors that will write you a prescription just because u claim to have migraines, pain or even a stubbed toe! These are the drug dealers of the future. The moral decay of our society continues!

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Paul Hurteau

12:26 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

and how do you feel about liqor stores,,, should they be closed also to slow the "Moral Decay of our society."

What about catholic churches and their pedophiles, should we close all churches because of a few bad apples?

I am a marijuana smoker, have been for 43 years and own my own car AND house OUTRIGHT!

DO I sound like a loser?

Paul Bishop

3:14 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

Sheryl, that's got nothing to do with this discussion. Ray, this isn't LA.. and the law is pretty clear. Thirty five in the state, no more than five in any county.

I'm interested in hearing some ideas, not a re-hash of people who don't support the law just passed, or discussion of legalized recreational pot. This isn't about recreational pot smokers, they enjoy some of the laxest laws in the country here in Massachusetts.

This is a discussion of how and where we ought to consider operating the legal dispensaries needed by real patients, I hope...

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Milford Senior Man

4:28 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

Hey Paul, 99% of the people who get a hold of medical marijuana will be recreational pot smokers.

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Chris L.

9:34 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

Hey Milford,

What kind of research do you have to back that assumption up? Have you been studying the states where medical marijuana is legal? Are you a physician who can look at a person and determine whether or not their use of marijuana is medical or recreational?

Medical marijuana use isn't exactly something you can look at a person and determine they need or don't need. There are quite a few people who have disorders that they battle through with over the counter drugs, but would be immensely helped by medical marijuana.

If eating a marijuana infused cookie helps someone with a sleep disorder get to sleep at night...who would you rather see on the road at 7am? Someone who ate one cookie and most likely got a good night's sleep? Or someone who ate a fistful of Tylenol PM's or Lunesta and is still shaking off their drug-induced fog?

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Paul Hurteau

12:32 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Milford Senior Man,,, and the problem you have with that is what??
People by booze for recreational reasons and can die from one bottle of Bacardi 151,,

Please tell me why we need alcohol that strong??

BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT IT!!!

Alcohol consumption in Colorado has droped 17% since medical marijuana has been introduced. That to me is a great reason to legalize marijuana all together.

IT DOES NOT KILL!!

Paul Bishop

4:40 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

Hmm, but of course you provide no evidence of your baseless remark.. once again- recreational smokers already can and do get weed... cheaper and easier than going to a dispensary. Pot for recreational use is all but legal in Mass, but that isn't the discussion. I really think you should read up a bit on the subject.

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Paul Hurteau

2:16 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

The National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) survey includes teens in 8th, 10th, & 12th grades. Other drugs showing some evidence of decline in use this year include cocaine, crack cocaine and inhalants. Full survey here: http://www.monitoringthefuture.org/

Interesting that California, Oregon and Washington State aren't among those reporting the greatest usage among teens yet these are the states with some of the most liberal cannabis laws for the last 15 years.

Medical marijuana has been the law in California since 1996. A 2007 study from Texas A&M found “Our results indicate that the introduction of medical cannabis laws was not associated with an increase in cannabis use among either arrestees or emergency department patients in cities and metropolitan areas located in four states in the USA (California, Colorado, Oregon, and Washington),” researchers reported in the International Journal of Drug Policy. “Consistent with other studies of the liberalization of cannabis laws, medical cannabis laws do not appear to increase use of the drug.

Abstract here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17689362

It might be more realistic to note that teenagers have gotten the message that cannabis is safer than alcohol or cigarettes. If cannabis were regulated like alcohol and tobacco, access for teens would be more difficult.

Paul Armentano weighed in on this issue earlier in the year.

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Paul Hurteau

2:15 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

In truth, marijuana use rates as a percentage of the overall population vary only slightly among states, despite states having remarkably varying degrees of marijuana enforcement and punishments. Several states with the most lenient laws regarding marijuana possession — such as Nebraska (possession of up to one ounce is a civil citation) and Mississippi (possession of up to 30 grams is a summons) — report having some of the lowest rates of marijuana use, while several states that maintain strict penalties for personal users report comparatively high levels of use.

quoted from this link: http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/judicial/134069-drug-czar-blames-rising-teen-pot-use-on-medical-cannabis-laws-rather-than-on-the-administrations-own-failed-policies

The Marijuana Policy Project reported this from 2005: http://www.mpp.org/reports/teen-use.html

They look at not just current usage but overall lifetime usage among teens.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/100220995

Paul Bishop

4:55 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

Let me put it this way- the dispensaries are coming, and the public overwhelmingly approved of the measure. I am interested in the implementation of the law, and how it will impact the areas surrounding. One thing I am sure of- if it isn't handled well, it very well could go the way of Oaksterdam (Oakland) and L.A. - something we do not want.

I would like to see a well-run, professional clinic instead of many of the unused properties that are slowly decaying around us. One question I have is what is the tax status of the dispensed marijuana? If there is sales tax involved, I can imagine there is no small amount of money going to be generated, also- something that may actually turn into a serious boon for cash-strapped municipalities, I would think.

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Paul Hurteau

2:19 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

The cost issue will determine as to how well these clinics do. From what I have seen here, the price is directly affected by who you know now.

I have seen prices from $250 an ounce to $500 per ounce here in Massachusetts,

Then there is the quality issue. In Northern California I have friends who, because of the amount available out there, can get a pound for $900 of superior quality.

The days of the Cartels are numbered as far as Marijuana goes, and that is probably the best part of legalizing it.

A "pack" of joints should not, in theory be any more expensive than a pack of cigarettes or a 6 pack of beer in reality.

Paul Bishop

5:07 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

FYI - Massachusetts exempts prescription medications from sales tax, but as this is explicitly is NOT a prescription, merely a recommendation (very different in legal terms) of use of what amounts to an herbal remedy, then the sale ought to be taxable under Mass statute.

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Chris L.

9:35 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

Paul, it is only going to be available by PRESCRIPTION, so unless there is another loophole somewhere, it will be tax exempt.

Jason

5:11 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

I suffer from one of the rarest forms of headaches that there is. I am one of only 12 people that have an implant in the front of my head to try to control the pain. I do not know if it would actually help me at all, but I would be willing to try about anything especially if it is natural. I have had the best Drs try so many man made medications on me that I really don't want anymore. I live in pain every day and if there is something that will help me I would like to have the legal chance to try it. I am afraid that there will be too many people trying to get it and causing problems for those that really do need it. I do know that it will create a large influx of tax dollars that are needed. I just want the places to be ran like a real pharmacy and not a head shop.

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Paul Hurteau

2:22 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

So a REAL pharmacy should not be selling food and the like because those are not pharmacy items.

Paul Bishop

5:22 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

Jason, I know what you mean. I sought out and went through what is the best pain management programs in the world- Beth Isreal's Arnold Chronic Pain Management Center. Clearly, associating a clinic or dispensary with the Arnold Clinic would be a high-value one-- because after many medications and several years, I was told by the doctors there that my best chance of living in less pain was to move to a state which allows for medical marijuana, followed immediately by a request from that same doctor that I never reveal that remark because he could lose his license to practice medicine for telling me that simple truth. You cannot imagine what it is to be told that. If nothing else, this law allows doctors to actually discuss this openly with their patients, without needing to fear retribution for what is a private medical decision between a doctor and a patient with little or no other options.

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Milford Senior Man

9:17 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

I think that if medical marijuana helps alleviate pain to people like Jason & Paul B. that is a great thing and I'm all for it!
But wait till you see all the people that are gonna get it just to get high. Some doctors will write scripts for it for the smallest of reasons or made up reasons. Medical marijuana will become a cash crop...

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Sean Snow

10:07 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

Marijuana is already the largest cash crop in the US, Milford senior man. Purdue profits off of OxyContin that's sold in pharmacies and on the street as well. People that want to get high with oxy get scripts from doctors as well. Should we stop providing it in pharmacies? The only point you seem to make is that some people smoke pot to get high.

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Nearnashua resident

9:34 am on Sunday, November 11, 2012

Well I hate to break it to all you winers but marijuana WILL be fully legal it's just a matter of time this medical legalization is just the first step to prove just how safe this is

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RJ

10:50 am on Sunday, November 11, 2012

Drs can't just "write scripts for the smallest of reasons". The patient has to be suffering from something major. I've been a recreational smoker for about 16 years and would of course love if it became legal across the board but I'll still gladly get my own stuff the "old fashioned way" until that happens. For now, I'm extremely happy that people who truly need it for pain management and to better their quality of life will now have access in Massachusetts. Those of you putting down marijuana like it such a bad thing have no clue. Do you people drink alcohol? Because that is FAR worse for you than marijuana can EVER be. Ever see a severe alcoholic die? I have. My uncle drank himself to death, literally. Not a side-effect that you'd ever see with marijuana. Worst case.. Maybe you go into a Cheetos spiral and wake up covered in orange powder. So to those of you denigrating marijuana on this message board.. Smoke a joint.. That'll help with the pain as you pull out that stick wedged tightly up your asses.

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Dan

11:42 am on Sunday, November 11, 2012

Obama-Biden 61%
Question 3: Medical Marijuana Yes 63%

Who are the bigger dopes? Oh, sorry, its the same people. When are people going to grow-up.

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Sean Snow

12:18 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

When people like you pull your head out of your behind, Dan. 63% of american's drink alchohol. By your reasoning, it's the people drinking booze that elected Obama. I'm just going to assume you'd prefer smaller government and less government intrusion into you life, unless of course it concerns the smoking of marijuana which then it's okay. ::rolls eyes::

Joseph Hill

1:54 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

It seems that some people will do ANYthing to curb the behavior of innocent people who happen not to share their prejudices. There's a 'mean-ness' afoot that has turned us into a nation of busybodies who are primed to 'lunge' at anybody who doesn't conform to the straight and narrow path these people would restrict us to. It's just a handy--and anti-intellectual--way to separate people into 'US' and 'THEM' to keep our hatred consistent. It used to be said that "there is no arguing taste"; but there are people who are not satisfied unless their own tastes can be imposed on everybody else. They want to declare our country a "Christian" nation; they want to declare homosexuality illegal. No other personal (and non-coercive) Freedom should be allowed, except their own. The Hallmark of the American experiment is that it is founded on REASON.

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Yondertree

2:01 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

The two biggest killers are perfectly legal to buy and use, tobacco and alcohol. I have no problem with it as long as abuse of the system doesn't get out of control.

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Paul Bishop

2:10 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

Anyone who equates ACTUAL medical use with a desire to 'get stoned' clearly has no concept of the pharmacology in play in these diseases, and the method of actin of the chemicals involved. In Crohns for example, it slow gut transit and supresses spasticity, as well as acts to supress nausea and increase appetite. In MS and ALS, the antispasmodic activity is key. In the wasting syndromes and nausea associated with cancer, AIDS, and the like, it is the nausea supression and appetite stimulation. B cell regulation by the anandamide system may be key in new arthritis treatments. This is what it can do, in some cases, like no other medication. This isn't about getting stoned.

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Joseph Hill

3:01 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

"This isn't about getting stoned." -- Paul Bishop

It IS to me, Paul...and it will make the process of purchasing it a heck of a lot easier.

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Chris L.

9:39 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

it IS to you, Joseph? So you're going to flout the intent of this law to get stoned?

Please spare us the false outrage.

Paul Bishop

2:19 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

By the way, isn't it sad that even now, with the passage of this law, that I still feel afraid to speak about the subject for fear of retribution? Let's be clear: All of my above statements are purely hearsay, as I of course have never consumed it, not even when I was down to 120 pounds and literally dying. Nope. Not even when the nonstop physical torture was makng me actively contemplate suicide. Nope. Not even after doctors told me it was my best chance at stopping the suffering. Not a puff. Be happy you don't know what it is to be sick, and scared too.

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Paul Bishop

3:16 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

Joseph, you are clearly a troll.. if you want weed to get stoned, it is available much more cheaply and easily on the street. If you are willing to go through all the medical hoops, the IDENTIFICATION of who you are and the fact you have weed, and pay what in most states is twice the street price to buy a joint at a dispensary... well, logic dictates. Joseph, what a sad little life you must lead. Your actions and words mock people who truly suffer, people who have no other option. To do so and brag about it-- smacks of troll and nothing more.

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Joseph Hill

3:24 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012

Your calling me a "troll" is more a reflection of your arrogance than a serious response to my post. The fact is that I am all in favor of medical uses of MJ; but I consider that only a half-way measure for those of us who DO favor recreational use of MJ. I'm sorry if that fact pushes your "crotchety button". [BTW...who put you in charge of this forum to decide the limits of the discussion?]

Actually, I haven't found that MJ is so readily available for recreational--or any other--use. None of my friends indulges, and I would find it damned awkward to approach a stranger to inquire about getting some. It is, after all, illegal...and I could easily be mistaken for a 'narc', given that I'm 65 years old. Maybe that will help you to appreciate my wish that it be made more available....for whatever use one wants to make of it. I started smoking it in Vietnam and found it enjoyable and relaxing and perfect for relief in stressful situations.

Maybe I just caught you at a bad time; but your response was, I think, uncalled for. Contrary to your hasty 'diagnosis', my "little life" is not "sad"...nor was I "mocking" anyone who needs--or favors--medical use of MJ. As I noted in an earlier post, I myself am very much in favor of its being made available for medical use.

I suggest you consider lightening up a bit before posting nasty--and very defensive--messages to someone who fundamentally shares your opinion.

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Sean Snow

4:04 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012

Paul, you really shouldn't be talking about the price of marijuana on the street versus medical marijuana from a dispensary when you don't know what your talking about. You can't back up the statement that it's twice the price at the dispensary as it is on the street. Yes, some weed on the street is going to be a lot cheaper, it is also going to be lesser quality. The dispensaries have many, many different strains of marijuana that you can choose from. You won't find a street dealer that does that, and if you do find a dealer that offers various strains it will be few and they won't be cheap.

Paul Bishop

4:10 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

Cannabidiol in Inflammatory Bowel Diseases: A Brief Overview.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22815234

Cannabinoids suppress inflammatory and neuropathic pain by targeting α3 glycine receptors.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22585736

These are a couple of articles of the HUNDREDS you should read. What needs to happen now is that we remove the stigma, so that real research can be done on WHY it works, so the effects can be replicated without needing to resort to such a crude method.

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Chris O'Hara

5:05 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

Ive been smoking 17yrs....and the best thing about prohibitionists is their extremely clueless about who smokes cannabis they believe that only "certian types" smoke it which makes it easier for me and my friends to remain in the closet so to speak.....we have extremely high paying professional jobs.....

If prohibitionists really knew how much cannabis is out there they would be demanding an end to the massive waste of tax dollars......The world health organization report to the UN listed the US as the worlds largest consumer of cannabis at over 55 million not the 12-15million thats often cited......

Do you really believe that its only kids and adult hippies and 40yr old loser and his parents basement? Dont be naive......its doctors nurses teachers athletes mothers fathers all types of respected members of society.....

Are alcohol consumers all child beating wife killing drunk driving trailer park trash? No and not all cannabis smokers are cheech and chong or jeff spaqoli some are billionaires like ted turner steve jobs before he passed and sir richard branson

Some are athletes like michael phelps are book writers like steven king or nobel prize winning physists like francis crick or kerri mullins.....

There's a reason cannabis prohibition is dying maybe you should educate yourself to find out why.....

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Paul Bishop

5:39 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

Again, Chris.. Recreational cannabis isn't the subject here... the newly enacted medical law is- and how to reasonably implement it- so as to service patients who actually need it rather than people who just want to get high. Massachusetts actually has some of laxest (well, CO and OR seem to have to have gone totally legal) laws as pertains to weed for recreational use.

I admittedly have a vested interest in seeing this done properly. I and people like me are the folks specifically targetted by this law, and to be honest, I find it sad that recreational pot smokers attempt to piggyback upon those that need it. I have no problem with folks who recreationally use pot- but that simply is not the subject matter of this discussion, the purpose of the dispensaries, or something that ought to be associated with it.

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Sean Snow

3:50 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012

Actually the topic of the discussion was "How would you feel about having a dispensary in town". Since, inevitablely, some of the people using the dispensary would be people looking to use it recreationally, recreational use is relevent to the discussion.

Keith l

12:39 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012

Put one on the corner of my street for all I care. I bet you that same asshole up top isn't disgusted when he's swilling alcohol on a weekend.
I'm not gonna depend on you people or society a whole to parent my children anyways so it doesn't matter what's out on the street ill teach em right from wrong.
Maybe we should worry about the entire generation destroyed by OxyContin and heroin before we bother glorified cigarette smokers. Actually cigs are a thousand times worse. Just like alcohol

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Keith l

12:45 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012

By the way I was on methadone for pain management for nine years. Marijuana is the only thing that allowed me to get any sort of life back. I don't drink and I dont use any other drugs. It really bothers me that people assume to know better than my own doctor. And as far as kids getting the weed. You can already get it in any school cafe across America. It's time to wake up. Seriously people

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Paul Hurteau

2:43 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

Methadone,,, You see the reason heroin is illegal is because a drug company came up with a chemical version that is then given to heroin addicts so that they get addicted to "Their" drug.

That's why Marijuana is illegal,,, alcohol and tobacco and pharmaceutical company's will loose a huge volume of their addicts.

Keith l

12:50 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012

But Paul lets be real about this. The system is and will be wracked with abuse. Medical is the next logical step toward legalization. Take the profitability away and there'll never be another marijuana crime in America unless its someone stealing your plant or your stash. What's really rediculous is acting like pot is harmful when there's a thousand drugs on the legal market that'll actually kill you

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Paul Hurteau

2:45 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

More people have died from OD'ing on water than have ever died from Marijuana.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication

Right??

Paul Bishop

11:50 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

This is not about getting stoned, Keith. This is about people who simply have no other medical options. I encourage you to become a member of NORML or MASSCANN, organizations that are working with a goal of legalization for recreational use- but please don't confuse your desire to get stoned with someone who has a medical need.

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Joseph Hill

11:47 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012

Hi, Paul H.

I've been keeping up with your posts on this site, and I find that you make more sense than most (because your views are the same as mine on this topic). Is there some way I can get in touch with you off this site? If so, you can reach me at aybayb(at)aol.com. I hope you'll get in touch...some things you've mentioned are quite important (to me).

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Barb R

10:37 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013

Barb R. Folks who have no need to use marijuana don't understand there are many of us with medical conditions that simply do not respond to traditional treatments. So....we are forced to simply tolerate pain, nausea, and other issues year after year, when some form of marijuana may very well help people to feel halfway healthy and be able to function the way those of you without the same health problems do. I would never have even TRIED medical marijuana except that unrelenting nausea pushed me in that direction and my doctor totally approved of giving me a prescription to see if it helps me. I'm not using it recreationally, not that I'm bothered by those who do. Please, just don't take steps to keep this product out of the hands of those of us who are sick and need help otherwise unavailable. If it was you, a relative or friend desperate for relief, you might well see this entirely differently.

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Paul Bishop

12:08 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

Here's a paragraph from a recent article by a CNN editor who suffers from Crohns, the disease which has ravaged me so severely that I can no longer maintain a job- the disease that amounts to physical torture until it kills you.

"Each person suffering from the disease will have their own private hell made up of variations of these components, but all will share the guarantee of loss of normal life, and the knowledge that there is no cure. During my worst times it's been so tough that, exhausted from battling the pain, frustration and fear, I've cried myself to sleep on the bathroom floor." - http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/07/health/crohns-personal-struggle/index.html

THIS is what a few puffs of weed can help. The receptor responsible for much of the pain is the receptor that Cannabidiol (a component of weed) unlocks. The ONLY source of the chemical is pot at the moment.

Please understand THAT is what this is about. It's not about getting high.

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Paul Bishop

12:12 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

Without bias- here's one of THOUSANDS of studies that are now finally being allowed. In time, we will get a "real" medicine based on this. Until then, weed is the only option that exists.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22095142
"Impact of cannabis treatment on the quality of life, weight and clinical disease activity in inflammatory bowel disease patients: a pilot prospective study."

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Paul Bishop

12:31 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

We patients don't want to be "stoners". We don't want to "get high". We are trying to survive.

We just want to be able to get the one medication that can help, without having to feel like criminals, live in fear of arrest, or hang outside of a convenience store at two in the morning to buy a bag of questionable weed from a fifteen year old kid. We want to be better than that. This law, that is what it is supposed to be. We could really use a little support. Let's do this right. I don't want to see a "head shop". I want to go to a pharmacy- and if that's not possible, then I want to get as close to that as possible.

I personally would LOVE to be involved in some of the actual discussions regarding this. If possible, I would love to be able to maybe even work in such a place part time. Being sick like this is terrible. Being able to help others who also suffer- that's a pretty noble goal, in my mind.

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Paul Bishop

3:49 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

Paul H... Methadone is a synthetic opiate painkiller with fewer "high" producing side effects. It's considered to be one of the better opiate-based painkillers when used for long-term pain managmement. It was invented by the Germans in 1937, gaining popularity quickly because wartime blockades prevented them from getting supplied with plant-derived Morphine and Hydromorphone.

It is also used for maintainance therapy and tapering off to break opiate addiction to such things as heroin and oxycodone, because it tends to give less of the 'reward' feeling than a comparable dose of a more harmful opiate. In many cases, both for managing chronic pain and for treating addiction, Methadone has been a wonder drug.

Please understand this is a medical issue being discussed, and not nonsense about conspiracies and getting high.

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Paul Bishop

4:28 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

As an interesting sidebar, the initial attempts at detox therapy via methadone were politically misunderstood and a campaign to discredit the therapy and its use were launched by several intolerant southern ministers. They started a rumor campaign claiming the trade name Dolofine (dolor finis, French for end of pain) for methadone was an homage to "Adolph" and that the treatment was actually a recruitment campaign for "Adolphine", which would make the patients into militant Nazis.

On one side, medical science.. On the other, ludicrous rants.

Paul Bishop

4:07 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

However, here's reality: I sought out a pain clinic to work out a long term plan to manage the pain of my disease. One of the best in the USA. I want to avoid heavy narcotic addiction as much as I can- the reality is that all long term opiate regimens are also understood to be an addiciton (physical need due to the changes caused by the drug itself) to the painkiller in use. It really becomes a question of minimizing this type of impact. In terms of opiates, I am able to manage with a synthetic form of codeine called Tramadol, which produces almost no narcotic side effects except tiredness and produces only mild physical addiction. Been on it for twelve years, it is a godsend... But I am in fact addicted to the chemical and would suffer withdrawal symptoms if I stopped abruptly.

The sad part is that I discussed the fact that when I could get it, I would get relief comparable and better than heavy painkillers could provide, simply from a few puffs on a joint.

The response? That if I would 'contract' with the pain clinic to NOT use marijuana, they would be able to give me a prescription for OXYCONTIN.

This is the reality.

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Paul Bishop

4:43 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

To clarify- the 'contract' in question is an agreement that because the clinic did not (and couldn't legally) provide the medication, it would not be allowed. The offer extended as an alternative to use of marijuana as an in-the-moment-of-need rescue painkiller was to offer Oxycontin, which is a continuous-release twelve-hour high dose Oxycodone, one of the most addictive and destructive substances on earth.

Because Oxycontin was the only legal choice, not because it was the right one. At least they were honest enough at one of my final appointments there to tell me that, and recommend I look into moving to a state that allows medical marijuana use.

Well, I didn't move. I want to do this right. Please support those of us trying so hard to do the right thing.

Sheryl Pearson

6:53 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

One of the reasons I left Milford was because of the high percentage of drug use amongst their citizens. And now that I know they are opening up a brothel-style marajuana dispensary on the outskirts of town, I definitely will never move back there!

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DGM

7:53 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

Nope. I have no problem. The people have voted. like anything there will be a pecentage of people that abuse it and get bogus scripts but I think it will be watched close by authorities.I do think that they should make it look like a legit business and not a head shop as that perception doesn't help what they want. Do I think it is as dangerous as drinking and driving? Yes, but that was not the blogs question.

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Sheryl Pearson

1:18 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Yes Paul, I promise. Cross my heart and hope to never set foot in Milford again!

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